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	<title>Comments on: Zettai Kareshi - 04</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hinano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hinano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or you can just watch that drama called "Anitque" or something. Boy that was a snore  :grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or you can just watch that drama called &#8220;Anitque&#8221; or something. Boy that was a snore  <img src='http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: k-chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>k-chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hinano&#62; yeah, i can definitely understand your disappointment there. and admittedly, i am looking at it from a perspective removed from any expectations about the manga. 

still, i think the show, if it can endure the bad taste it has left in the fandom's mouth, will do some neat, albeit non-manga-related things with these characters. as i previously rambled about, there is potential for night/riko chemistry in the future. it will just happen slower, in a way that makes the most sense in context of the drama where riko can actually hold her own. this appeals more to me than the manga version, i guess.

what bothers me most about the show is its fixation on baked goods. i'm considering making a spin-off series called "absolute cream puff." man.  :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hinano&gt; yeah, i can definitely understand your disappointment there. and admittedly, i am looking at it from a perspective removed from any expectations about the manga. </p>
<p>still, i think the show, if it can endure the bad taste it has left in the fandom&#8217;s mouth, will do some neat, albeit non-manga-related things with these characters. as i previously rambled about, there is potential for night/riko chemistry in the future. it will just happen slower, in a way that makes the most sense in context of the drama where riko can actually hold her own. this appeals more to me than the manga version, i guess.</p>
<p>what bothers me most about the show is its fixation on baked goods. i&#8217;m considering making a spin-off series called &#8220;absolute cream puff.&#8221; man.  <img src='http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Hinano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hinano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>k-chan&gt; You bring up a really good point and while I agree with you I think the "mindset" everyone (including myself) is having is that we liked the manga for what it was: a silly fantasy about a girl falling in love with the "perfect Boyfriend". Since the drama is based ON the manga, we feel disappointed. However IF this drama was just "a drama about an OL who accidentally gets a robot boyfriend" I would view it from a completely different light. Perhaps those of us who liked the manga want to see that "fantasy in drama form" rather than a "realistic perspective on the robot boyfriend issue".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k-chan> You bring up a really good point and while I agree with you I think the &#8220;mindset&#8221; everyone (including myself) is having is that we liked the manga for what it was: a silly fantasy about a girl falling in love with the &#8220;perfect Boyfriend&#8221;. Since the drama is based ON the manga, we feel disappointed. However IF this drama was just &#8220;a drama about an OL who accidentally gets a robot boyfriend&#8221; I would view it from a completely different light. Perhaps those of us who liked the manga want to see that &#8220;fantasy in drama form&#8221; rather than a &#8220;realistic perspective on the robot boyfriend issue&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: k-chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>k-chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i haven't seen episode five yet..but i will comment anyway.

it's easy to write mika's character off as a bitch/slut/man-stealing-whore etc. but recall the scene where she has just exited the car with her "boyfriend" who has not yet broken up with his real girlfriend to be with her, even though she asked him to. in trying to win mika over, night says something along the lines of: "she only acts this way because she's only ever had to deal with people like you" [referring to the other man]". it's very easy to become jaded after being hurt repeatedly in relationships before, and mika is only mimicking the way she's been treated in the past by others. it's nothing sinister or scheming. she is a good friend-- we see this when she calls up riko in the middle of the night to ask for her permission to fall in love with night. i think riko is justified in forgiving mika because she of all people understands what it's like to be rejected by someone that she was devoted to.

i think mika's flaws, like many other things in the drama, are more realistic and true to how people actually act. yes, i agree that the original spirit of the manga has been abandoned in this show. yet-- i also would argue that the manga is naive. it's a cute story, sure. but the drama has done a good job of humanizing a story as far-fetched as one about a robot-lover and making it accessible for an audience as something they can relate to.

you said yourself that riko is no longer a teenager in the drama. she's an adult, and as a result is not as boy-centric nor are her hormones still rattling around like overexcited popcorn. it makes sense that she will not gravitate towards night right away, let alone fall in love with him at this point. having to date a robot, even if he is 'ideal' for you, is an admission of defeat in finding someone real and human to love you. it's embarassing and depressing, not 'ideal' at all. you're correct in saying that night is a bit of a cockblocker to the soushi/riko chemistry right now, but i'd be completely unconvinced if riko was even reluctantly falling for night at this point. they need more time together, and night is gradually becoming less 'programmed' and more genuine in his affections (first evidence of this: his memories of riko intact) riko will be doing the same soon.

where the hell is this drama going? someplace new. and someplace more positive. why are you all lamenting the loss of another sappy knight-in-shining armor rescuing the damsel-in-distress? i think the fact that it was riko's begrudging kiss that saves night instead of a sappy rescue-embrace is far more empowering for her character. i also think its easy to pigeonhole characters like mika as a "bitch, slut, betrayer" when mika and riko are both doing the best they can in this relationship 'game' using rules that have long been established by a larger society and even being subversive whenever possible. riko isn't taking night's shit. he's ideal, but he's not yet genuine in his affections. (keyword- yet) if she starts to fall in love with him, it will be on her own terms-- not his. so what exactly is wrong with this? 

sorry for the rant, but i want to stick up for the drama because i think it has a lot going for it, even though it is straying from the original ideas in the manga. instead of watching this with the lens of "they changed this!" maybe ask "they changed this...why?" the answer may actually reveal that the show is not "going to hell" as an above commenter says, but just going someplace different. not necessarily a bad thing.

thoughts? :???:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i haven&#8217;t seen episode five yet..but i will comment anyway.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s easy to write mika&#8217;s character off as a bitch/slut/man-stealing-whore etc. but recall the scene where she has just exited the car with her &#8220;boyfriend&#8221; who has not yet broken up with his real girlfriend to be with her, even though she asked him to. in trying to win mika over, night says something along the lines of: &#8220;she only acts this way because she&#8217;s only ever had to deal with people like you&#8221; [referring to the other man]&#8220;. it&#8217;s very easy to become jaded after being hurt repeatedly in relationships before, and mika is only mimicking the way she&#8217;s been treated in the past by others. it&#8217;s nothing sinister or scheming. she is a good friend&#8211; we see this when she calls up riko in the middle of the night to ask for her permission to fall in love with night. i think riko is justified in forgiving mika because she of all people understands what it&#8217;s like to be rejected by someone that she was devoted to.</p>
<p>i think mika&#8217;s flaws, like many other things in the drama, are more realistic and true to how people actually act. yes, i agree that the original spirit of the manga has been abandoned in this show. yet&#8211; i also would argue that the manga is naive. it&#8217;s a cute story, sure. but the drama has done a good job of humanizing a story as far-fetched as one about a robot-lover and making it accessible for an audience as something they can relate to.</p>
<p>you said yourself that riko is no longer a teenager in the drama. she&#8217;s an adult, and as a result is not as boy-centric nor are her hormones still rattling around like overexcited popcorn. it makes sense that she will not gravitate towards night right away, let alone fall in love with him at this point. having to date a robot, even if he is &#8216;ideal&#8217; for you, is an admission of defeat in finding someone real and human to love you. it&#8217;s embarassing and depressing, not &#8216;ideal&#8217; at all. you&#8217;re correct in saying that night is a bit of a cockblocker to the soushi/riko chemistry right now, but i&#8217;d be completely unconvinced if riko was even reluctantly falling for night at this point. they need more time together, and night is gradually becoming less &#8216;programmed&#8217; and more genuine in his affections (first evidence of this: his memories of riko intact) riko will be doing the same soon.</p>
<p>where the hell is this drama going? someplace new. and someplace more positive. why are you all lamenting the loss of another sappy knight-in-shining armor rescuing the damsel-in-distress? i think the fact that it was riko&#8217;s begrudging kiss that saves night instead of a sappy rescue-embrace is far more empowering for her character. i also think its easy to pigeonhole characters like mika as a &#8220;bitch, slut, betrayer&#8221; when mika and riko are both doing the best they can in this relationship &#8216;game&#8217; using rules that have long been established by a larger society and even being subversive whenever possible. riko isn&#8217;t taking night&#8217;s shit. he&#8217;s ideal, but he&#8217;s not yet genuine in his affections. (keyword- yet) if she starts to fall in love with him, it will be on her own terms&#8211; not his. so what exactly is wrong with this? </p>
<p>sorry for the rant, but i want to stick up for the drama because i think it has a lot going for it, even though it is straying from the original ideas in the manga. instead of watching this with the lens of &#8220;they changed this!&#8221; maybe ask &#8220;they changed this&#8230;why?&#8221; the answer may actually reveal that the show is not &#8220;going to hell&#8221; as an above commenter says, but just going someplace different. not necessarily a bad thing.</p>
<p>thoughts? <img src='http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':???:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, after Mika draped a blanket over Night, I was beginning to think that maybe /she/ was the one who would come around in lieu of Riko and then she'd get a cool side story where she learns to be a human being while learning that Night is not. Alas, tis not to be. 

I don't mind the changes to Soushi. I like manga!Soushi and just tend to think of the drama!Soushi as a different person entirely. Riko really, really annoys me though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, after Mika draped a blanket over Night, I was beginning to think that maybe /she/ was the one who would come around in lieu of Riko and then she&#8217;d get a cool side story where she learns to be a human being while learning that Night is not. Alas, tis not to be. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind the changes to Soushi. I like manga!Soushi and just tend to think of the drama!Soushi as a different person entirely. Riko really, really annoys me though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashlea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashlea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 06:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow I seem to be in a minority with this drama, I really enjoy it ^^ and I have read the manga. Wasn't a huge fan to be fair cos of the whole human x robot thing. I am/was rooting for Soshi all the way.
True there have been a lot of changes but none have them have irked me too much to be fair. It did bug me a lil bit that Riiko was so nasty to Night and like in the manga I don't enjoy Mika.
But apart from that... Fingers Crossed for Riiko and Sosho all the way ^-^
*Runs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow I seem to be in a minority with this drama, I really enjoy it ^^ and I have read the manga. Wasn&#8217;t a huge fan to be fair cos of the whole human x robot thing. I am/was rooting for Soshi all the way.<br />
True there have been a lot of changes but none have them have irked me too much to be fair. It did bug me a lil bit that Riiko was so nasty to Night and like in the manga I don&#8217;t enjoy Mika.<br />
But apart from that&#8230; Fingers Crossed for Riiko and Sosho all the way ^-^<br />
*Runs*</p>
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		<title>By: ryoko11</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryoko11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm finding this Riiko unbearably annoying.  I went into this series feeling there was definite room for improvement over the manga, but they seem to be deteremined to change the drama in ways that cause the story and characters to make no sense.  What the hell is the point of Night even being in the drama at this rate?   :mad:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m finding this Riiko unbearably annoying.  I went into this series feeling there was definite room for improvement over the manga, but they seem to be deteremined to change the drama in ways that cause the story and characters to make no sense.  What the hell is the point of Night even being in the drama at this rate?   <img src='http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the drama, but I have problems with the changes. I know that turning a manga into a drama is not easy, but I think they're changing too many things that didn't have to be changed. And Soshi is so messed up. He's nothing like in the manga. And I hate the fact that they're making Night just some robot. Nothing else. In the manga he fell in love with Riko. That's what made him special, not the "I was made to love you and be this way". He was a different robot. He had feelings. Where are those feelings?? :mad: I really don't see this drama ending nicely in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the drama, but I have problems with the changes. I know that turning a manga into a drama is not easy, but I think they&#8217;re changing too many things that didn&#8217;t have to be changed. And Soshi is so messed up. He&#8217;s nothing like in the manga. And I hate the fact that they&#8217;re making Night just some robot. Nothing else. In the manga he fell in love with Riko. That&#8217;s what made him special, not the &#8220;I was made to love you and be this way&#8221;. He was a different robot. He had feelings. Where are those feelings?? <img src='http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' /> I really don&#8217;t see this drama ending nicely in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: Hinano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hinano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 13:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep as everyone says, the "essense" of the manga story has pretty much been thrown out :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep as everyone says, the &#8220;essense&#8221; of the manga story has pretty much been thrown out <img src='http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: algelic</title>
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		<dc:creator>algelic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 13:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm getting so annoyed with this drama!   :mad:  Most of all, I really dislike the main character Riko. Maybe I dislike both the character and the actress. So far I haven't seen any chemistry between Night and Riko, and she's a freakin idiot running around and ignoring Night. Probably the only character I even remotely like is Night... every other character I either dislike or don't give a crap about.  :sad:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting so annoyed with this drama!   <img src='http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' />  Most of all, I really dislike the main character Riko. Maybe I dislike both the character and the actress. So far I haven&#8217;t seen any chemistry between Night and Riko, and she&#8217;s a freakin idiot running around and ignoring Night. Probably the only character I even remotely like is Night&#8230; every other character I either dislike or don&#8217;t give a crap about.  <img src='http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':sad:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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