Comments on: Why can’t all voting be as organized as SaiGAR?

By: Di Gi Kazune

Di Gi Kazune — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:52:55 +0000

Bah! SaiGAY is skewed. Don’t bother to even take note anymore. Revy should have won last year’s. Nanoha isn’t even GAR anymore. More like usedby christmas cake since SuckS.

Anyway, why your election/voting system sucks is basically down to the political system because there are so many different groups that have their own interests etc2. Too bloody convoluted to explain in detail without dragging out a huge headache.

Now excuse me while I enjoy my nezumis torturing nekos for a new year. :3

By: Telliamed

Telliamed — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:55:50 +0000

@Son Gohan
Not everyone can or wants to run any random app someone throws at them. Like everyone with a Macintosh. Or if you’re using a public or work computer.

The things that make the internet worth using are the reasons why it shouldn’t be trusted for voting. Mainly, you can have anonymity or security but not both, which elections require.

Incidentally, MT Forums started their AGP tournament last week.
(spam filter didn’t like me pasting links here, so just click on my name for info)

By: Telliamed

Telliamed — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:41:05 +0000

@Son Gohan
Unless you use a Macintosh, or a version of Linux without pygtk installed, or are on a public computer, or just don’t feel like downloading and running any random app that someone throws at you.

The things that make the internet worth using are the reasons why it shouldn’t be trusted for voting. Main thing is you can be anonymous, or you can be secure. Elections require both.

Incidentally, MT Forums started their AGP tournament last week. You can follow the action here http://www.sd40.btinternet.co.uk/mt/agp-bracket.htm or at my site (click the name). Or, of course, http://forums.megatokyo.com/index.php?showforum=32

By: Hinano

Hinano — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:18:10 +0000

Son> Ooh that sounds handy!

By: DrmChsr0

DrmChsr0 — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:06:18 +0000

It’s just as messy as the real elections.

By: Son Gohan

Son Gohan — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:28:54 +0000

Korean Best Moe voting system is even better than Saigar. You download a little program that generates your voting code based on the date and your IP number. There is no waiting an hour, you can vote immediately.

By: TheBigN

TheBigN — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:23:33 +0000

I hope that when I hopefully go to vote next week, I won’t have to deal with the hassle that you did. Hopefully the national elections aren’t as bad. :/

By: T_I

T_I — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:39:53 +0000

Saigar is suspect to revenge votings
it’s not perfect

By: boatswain

boatswain — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:42:32 +0000

LOL My mom used to work at the polls and she understands your pain. The problem lies mostly in the government, because usually government employees are sent to be polling officers, and because government business is what we call “public enterprise” the whole system of actually FIRING people is lot harder than saying “GO TO HELL.” No, you have to fill out fifty paperwork, and after that another set of fifty, and wait ten years before Human Resources comes back. It drives my mom crazy, since there’s alot of incompetent people at the workplace, and guess what? They all go work at the polls. Hey, a free day of relaxation, why not?

And they’re also too afraid to use electronic voting system for something this important because there are too many haxxors online lol.

By: Calawain

Calawain — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:32:13 +0000

Hinano>That’s true but you’d think that after all these years it would at least be “in the works” ya know?

Well what’s in the works now is trying to get electronic voting setup at physical poll sites. That itself is causing lots of problems. I’ve worked in government in a couple of different capacities, and they are always a few years behind technology in adapting stuff. I mean look at the DMCA and copyright for instance, the laws on the books are way behind current technology. These days with the technological explosion governments just can’t catch up, it’s inherent in today’s bureaucratic design. I’m sure it will get done eventually, but until then I recommend absentee ballots.

Hinano> Also if you’re in NY why haven’t we met up at some convention yet?

Well seeing as how I’m a law student I’m broke as hell, I couldn’t afford the only convention that’s been close since I moved here (that one in December) because it was right around Christmas and all that gift buying =/

Will>The big problem with absentee and early voting is having your candidate drop out between sending in your ballot out and your official primary date. If the candidate has dropped, your vote is thrown out and you don’t get another. This bit a lot of Edwards, Giuliani, and Thompson voters.

Well the solution there is to either drop your ballot off at a polling place the day of, or mail it like 2-3 days before the election. One would hope that your mail service takes less than 2-3 days to mail something that close. And one would hope nobody drops out 2-3 days before the election.