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	<title>Comments on: Hayate no Gotoku - 05</title>
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		<title>By: MyHeadOnFireCozIAskedForFanSub/Download/Manga</title>
		<link>http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/2007/04/29/hayate-no-gotoku-05/#comment-44556</link>
		<dc:creator>MyHeadOnFireCozIAskedForFanSub/Download/Manga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I feel that this anime series is a great success. Characters are pretty much likeable, and with the Saimoe fest going on, this anime will go even higher on the rankings, since the lead female character, Sanzen'in Nagi is either champion, or at least a runner-up currently. Anyway, the parodies are pretty obvious compared to Lucky Star's, and I like to spend effort finding what are the references, but still, this has some references that will really make you laugh your ass off. Still, I must say, they must be pretty good friends with Gundam producers, since they keep referencing to Gundam.
The OP is pretty catchy, and since it's by KOTOKO, I'll give it a thumbs up, and animation is decent. Overall I'll give it a 8/10, since some parts like "Is this Michael ****son's house??!!" made me laugh so hard my stomach hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I feel that this anime series is a great success. Characters are pretty much likeable, and with the Saimoe fest going on, this anime will go even higher on the rankings, since the lead female character, Sanzen&#8217;in Nagi is either champion, or at least a runner-up currently. Anyway, the parodies are pretty obvious compared to Lucky Star&#8217;s, and I like to spend effort finding what are the references, but still, this has some references that will really make you laugh your ass off. Still, I must say, they must be pretty good friends with Gundam producers, since they keep referencing to Gundam.<br />
The OP is pretty catchy, and since it&#8217;s by KOTOKO, I&#8217;ll give it a thumbs up, and animation is decent. Overall I&#8217;ll give it a 8/10, since some parts like &#8220;Is this Michael ****son&#8217;s house??!!&#8221; made me laugh so hard my stomach hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: ひでぽん</title>
		<link>http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/2007/04/29/hayate-no-gotoku-05/#comment-15402</link>
		<dc:creator>ひでぽん</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 08:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;つうじなかった
「えんりょしておきます」って、日本人みたいな断り方ｗ
それにしても、１２時間はツライなぁ～

1POINT　Japanese
えんりょうしておきます。→えんりょ（遠慮）しておきます。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;つうじなかった<br />
「えんりょしておきます」って、日本人みたいな断り方ｗ<br />
それにしても、１２時間はツライなぁ～</p>
<p>1POINT　Japanese<br />
えんりょうしておきます。→えんりょ（遠慮）しておきます。</p>
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		<title>By: arkon</title>
		<link>http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/2007/04/29/hayate-no-gotoku-05/#comment-15327</link>
		<dc:creator>arkon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Let’s be honest - Lucky Star AND Hayate will never be held up as examples of ‘the best anime has to offer’; they’re not stellar, they’re not the best, and one’s not even animated as well as it could be."

Agreed. I'm still wondering why I'm even continuing this discussion. I merely weighed in with my opinion that seemed to be the opposite of people commenting here. I think I carried on because of lines like: "and from what I’ve heard from many, Lucky Star’s actually going downhill, not uphill."

Whatever it seems we're agreeing on most points anyway. Nvm I think I'll leave it at that since this doesn't really seem to be going anywhere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let’s be honest - Lucky Star AND Hayate will never be held up as examples of ‘the best anime has to offer’; they’re not stellar, they’re not the best, and one’s not even animated as well as it could be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed. I&#8217;m still wondering why I&#8217;m even continuing this discussion. I merely weighed in with my opinion that seemed to be the opposite of people commenting here. I think I carried on because of lines like: &#8220;and from what I’ve heard from many, Lucky Star’s actually going downhill, not uphill.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whatever it seems we&#8217;re agreeing on most points anyway. Nvm I think I&#8217;ll leave it at that since this doesn&#8217;t really seem to be going anywhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hinano</title>
		<link>http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/2007/04/29/hayate-no-gotoku-05/#comment-15320</link>
		<dc:creator>Hinano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 13:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ありがとうございます～☆
じつわ本屋の仕事ことわりました。。ｗ
毎日１２時間の仕事ですから「えんりょうしておきます」と言いました。（なんか英語で”Ｉ　ＤＯＮＴ　ＴＨＩＮＫ　Ｉ　ＣＡＮ　ＷＯＲＫ　１２　ＨＯＵＲＳ”つうじなかった。。）</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ありがとうございます～☆<br />
じつわ本屋の仕事ことわりました。。ｗ<br />
毎日１２時間の仕事ですから「えんりょうしておきます」と言いました。（なんか英語で”Ｉ　ＤＯＮＴ　ＴＨＩＮＫ　Ｉ　ＣＡＮ　ＷＯＲＫ　１２　ＨＯＵＲＳ”つうじなかった。。）</p>
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		<title>By: ひでぽん</title>
		<link>http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/2007/04/29/hayate-no-gotoku-05/#comment-15307</link>
		<dc:creator>ひでぽん</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 10:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>そっか、お疲れ。
ヒナノなら‘本屋の漫画仕入れ担当の仕事‘で能力発揮できるだろうね。
日本語上手だから、それを生かした仕事につければ良いね。
幸運を祈ります。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>そっか、お疲れ。<br />
ヒナノなら‘本屋の漫画仕入れ担当の仕事‘で能力発揮できるだろうね。<br />
日本語上手だから、それを生かした仕事につければ良いね。<br />
幸運を祈ります。</p>
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		<title>By: Hinano</title>
		<link>http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/2007/04/29/hayate-no-gotoku-05/#comment-15290</link>
		<dc:creator>Hinano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 05:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>なんとか終わりましたけど。。。
もしＮｅｗＹｏｒｋで仕事ゲットするとまた引っ越す。
じつわＤＡＩ－ＩＣＨＩＬＩＦＥに仕事ねらってます。。。もう二回インタービュにいってました。。
:&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>なんとか終わりましたけど。。。<br />
もしＮｅｗＹｏｒｋで仕事ゲットするとまた引っ越す。<br />
じつわＤＡＩ－ＩＣＨＩＬＩＦＥに仕事ねらってます。。。もう二回インタービュにいってました。。<br />
 <img src='http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ひでぽん</title>
		<link>http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/2007/04/29/hayate-no-gotoku-05/#comment-15285</link>
		<dc:creator>ひでぽん</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 04:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome home!
引越しとか終わったの？</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome home!<br />
引越しとか終わったの？</p>
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		<title>By: Haesslich</title>
		<link>http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/hinano/2007/04/29/hayate-no-gotoku-05/#comment-15271</link>
		<dc:creator>Haesslich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 00:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's be honest - Lucky Star AND Hayate will never be held up as examples of 'the best anime has to offer'; they're not stellar, they're not the best, and one's not even animated as well as it could be.  They are, however, entertaining... as long as you're not the sort of person who demands a meaningful anime, or one that meets all of their personal likes or dislikes.  This show's a series of gags, parodies, and references to other games/manga/anime which require an encyclopedia to 'get' all of them.  It is, however, consistently amusing for me even as I get annoyed with the deviations from the manga.

Lucky Star's... well, its humor is more like Seinfeld's, as pointed out by CB; it's very specific and not easily picked up, and could be seen as an acquired taste.  Overall, I'd have to say that I've enjoyed Hayate more than Lucky Star, KyoAni or no.  The latter's better in its animation... but the show just doesn't really grab me.  Hayate's not high art, but I do find it amusing - not 'the best show of the season', but funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest - Lucky Star AND Hayate will never be held up as examples of &#8216;the best anime has to offer&#8217;; they&#8217;re not stellar, they&#8217;re not the best, and one&#8217;s not even animated as well as it could be.  They are, however, entertaining&#8230; as long as you&#8217;re not the sort of person who demands a meaningful anime, or one that meets all of their personal likes or dislikes.  This show&#8217;s a series of gags, parodies, and references to other games/manga/anime which require an encyclopedia to &#8216;get&#8217; all of them.  It is, however, consistently amusing for me even as I get annoyed with the deviations from the manga.</p>
<p>Lucky Star&#8217;s&#8230; well, its humor is more like Seinfeld&#8217;s, as pointed out by CB; it&#8217;s very specific and not easily picked up, and could be seen as an acquired taste.  Overall, I&#8217;d have to say that I&#8217;ve enjoyed Hayate more than Lucky Star, KyoAni or no.  The latter&#8217;s better in its animation&#8230; but the show just doesn&#8217;t really grab me.  Hayate&#8217;s not high art, but I do find it amusing - not &#8216;the best show of the season&#8217;, but funny.</p>
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		<title>By: arkon</title>
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		<dc:creator>arkon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 00:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno... speaking purely from my personal experience I didn't think Lucky Star could get worse than its first episode and again for me it didn't. Certainly I haven't come across anything as bad as the much maligned/much talked about 7 minute discussion on food from ep1(or however long it was). I guess perhaps it's a case of getting more familiar with the characters *shrugs*. Certainly seems to be more enjoyable compared to the first episode at least so in that respect I'd still say yeah it has gone uphill. Perhaps a teeny bit of hyperbole there.

As for Hayate I've a completely open mind to it(haven't touched the manga) and I'd like to think I'm an anime fan. Sure I can't pretend to get all the references but even those I do get I'm not finding as funny as some. It's more of a case of "oh they're referencing this show here" and that's about it. Unless there's something particularly well done. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying I find the same references in Lucky Star funny either. They usually have to be really well done to get more than the above reaction from me. I think possibly the recent Saint Seiya one and the one with the Giant Robot from the first ep are examples, but like in this most recent ep I dunno... couldn't really think of anything in the same league. I'm finding it hard to get my points across well so you'll have to forgive me. I think perhaps the second ep post on lucky star on this site(was it?) said it better than me.

I don't particularly love the show but I don't hate it either (although some annoying bits did pop up in this episode) so perhaps I'm an exception given it's supposed to be a love it or hate it type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno&#8230; speaking purely from my personal experience I didn&#8217;t think Lucky Star could get worse than its first episode and again for me it didn&#8217;t. Certainly I haven&#8217;t come across anything as bad as the much maligned/much talked about 7 minute discussion on food from ep1(or however long it was). I guess perhaps it&#8217;s a case of getting more familiar with the characters *shrugs*. Certainly seems to be more enjoyable compared to the first episode at least so in that respect I&#8217;d still say yeah it has gone uphill. Perhaps a teeny bit of hyperbole there.</p>
<p>As for Hayate I&#8217;ve a completely open mind to it(haven&#8217;t touched the manga) and I&#8217;d like to think I&#8217;m an anime fan. Sure I can&#8217;t pretend to get all the references but even those I do get I&#8217;m not finding as funny as some. It&#8217;s more of a case of &#8220;oh they&#8217;re referencing this show here&#8221; and that&#8217;s about it. Unless there&#8217;s something particularly well done. Don&#8217;t get me wrong I&#8217;m not saying I find the same references in Lucky Star funny either. They usually have to be really well done to get more than the above reaction from me. I think possibly the recent Saint Seiya one and the one with the Giant Robot from the first ep are examples, but like in this most recent ep I dunno&#8230; couldn&#8217;t really think of anything in the same league. I&#8217;m finding it hard to get my points across well so you&#8217;ll have to forgive me. I think perhaps the second ep post on lucky star on this site(was it?) said it better than me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t particularly love the show but I don&#8217;t hate it either (although some annoying bits did pop up in this episode) so perhaps I&#8217;m an exception given it&#8217;s supposed to be a love it or hate it type.</p>
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		<title>By: Haesslich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haesslich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 21:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This show is a 'love it or hate it' type, much like Lucky Star - and from what I've heard from many, Lucky Star's actually going downhill, not uphill.  But still, with a show like Hayate, you have to accept two things:  1)  It's not deep, it'll never be serious, and everything's a cliche.  2)  If you're an anime fan, you'll probably get more if you understand most of the jokes, since it's not written to be as broadly humourous as many comedies are.  

Lucky Star follows a similar formula, minus the cliches but with a few more references (see the PPD one from Lucky Star Ep 4).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This show is a &#8216;love it or hate it&#8217; type, much like Lucky Star - and from what I&#8217;ve heard from many, Lucky Star&#8217;s actually going downhill, not uphill.  But still, with a show like Hayate, you have to accept two things:  1)  It&#8217;s not deep, it&#8217;ll never be serious, and everything&#8217;s a cliche.  2)  If you&#8217;re an anime fan, you&#8217;ll probably get more if you understand most of the jokes, since it&#8217;s not written to be as broadly humourous as many comedies are.  </p>
<p>Lucky Star follows a similar formula, minus the cliches but with a few more references (see the PPD one from Lucky Star Ep 4).</p>
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